nelly136- thanks. Is that really you? Lord, you're just a babe; compared to me that is.
wondering alot
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How the Net will reduce WTS ranks
by Seeker inshe is studying with one of jws.
she has a study with her teacher, and then she comes here and talks about it.
she learns that the wts teaches one thing to new ones, but something else entirely to those who are already baptized.
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Elder's Daughter
by Daisymay ingreetings and salutations!
i've commented a couple times on this post and have hung around for a few weeks and thought i'd tell you a little about myself!
btw...i think this site is awesome and totally therapetic!
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Welcome, welcome Daisy:
I cringe every time I think of the KH song "Children-Precious gifts from God"
They are gifts from God; He says 'Use the rod.'
sick, sick, sick people. I'm embarassed that I at one time actually sang those words.
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The "Kingdom of God", Perhaps An Ear...
by MDS inthe "kingdom of god," perhaps an earthly kingdom?.
daniel 7:21, 22 says this:.
"i kept on beholding when that very horn made war upon the holy ones, and it was prevailing against them, and judgment itself was given in favor of the holy ones of supreme one, and the definite time arrived that the holy ones took possession of the kingdom itself.".
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True there are points in the scriptures that could point to the traditional Christian notion that the faithful go to heaven, or at least some do.
Don't you feel that it seems strange that a loving creator would but man on the earth to fill and cultivate it; and when things went wrong say "Forget the earth thing I started, I want all you people that I think are good enough to come up here with me. These spirit creatures I have up here just can't do their job. And by the way, forget about all that flesh and blood stuff, good food, fulfilling work, families, sex, sun and rain, etc."
I don't buy it. Why does Jesus need faulty humans to help him in heaven? You might say they'll were tested and made perfect. Quite a risk for live eternal, Satan must have looked petty good at one time too.
There are too many other scriptures that simply continue the Jewish concept of a resurection back to a paradise earth apart from fleshly imperfection. I think we could live in an earth made perfect by a heavenly government yet not have to reside in the spiritual heavenly realm.
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How the Net will reduce WTS ranks
by Seeker inshe is studying with one of jws.
she has a study with her teacher, and then she comes here and talks about it.
she learns that the wts teaches one thing to new ones, but something else entirely to those who are already baptized.
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Are't You Sick of This??
by Explorer inaren't you sick of being filled with so much hate ?
i think hate is one of the greatest sins.
satan hates jehovah, and his people.
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dedalus- good point, that's bothered me for years. What's the answer?
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How the Net will reduce WTS ranks
by Seeker inshe is studying with one of jws.
she has a study with her teacher, and then she comes here and talks about it.
she learns that the wts teaches one thing to new ones, but something else entirely to those who are already baptized.
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nelly136-With all due respect, I think the internet has a long way to go. How does one find out what's real and what isn't? True the info and the community unites and informs, is it for the better? Is it true?
News flash:The main building of the Watchower Bible and Tract Society was levitated in the air for over an hour today. A group of ex-JWs surrounded the WT headquarters in Brooklyn. After circling seven times and shouting out answers to the WT study article before they were asked, the building slowly begain rising from its foundation revealing all sorts of skeletons in its basement. The Society offered no comment other than "They are looking into the book of Revelation for possible answers."
Could be or maybe not. That's the problem. So you try to verify from other sources, how do you know they are telling you truth. This goes on in the media now and it's hard to police.
Accountablity is the problem. I don't know you from Adam and you don't know me.
Hopefully the exchange of info will get people thinking and hopefully for themselves.All I want is the truth,
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Are't You Sick of This??
by Explorer inaren't you sick of being filled with so much hate ?
i think hate is one of the greatest sins.
satan hates jehovah, and his people.
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Good to hear from you Explorer, glad you didn't slip away. Stay with us.
My biggest complaint with the Org. is that it is an Organization. It's an org. that tries to defy accountability. It's annonomous, acts like a prophet, yet has been proven to be false. Where in the Christian-Greek scriptures does it say that God or Jesus will act through a spokesman-like organization.Hope to keep heraring from you.
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Brain Surgery Possible Without Blood Transfusion
by apostate inbrain surgery possible without blood transfusion .
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010725/hl/blood_1.html .
new york (reuters health) - patients who object to blood transfusions for religious reasons may still be able to safely undergo brain or spinal surgery, researchers report.
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I just watched one of the WTBST's video's on Blood. It said the same thing that certain blood factions are acceptable. It also said that certain products made from blood factions are also acceptable for JW's.
The whole video had only one scriptual reference. The rest was a petty PR production. What was illustrated was surgery that was planned or elective operations. There was no mention of emergency surgery. I don't even remember them mentioning that someone could die if they didn't have blood.They never mentioned the WTBTS's old position that vacinations are totally unnecessary and the eqivalence of poluting ones body; or that transplants should be considered canabalism. No surprise there.
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How the Net will reduce WTS ranks
by Seeker inshe is studying with one of jws.
she has a study with her teacher, and then she comes here and talks about it.
she learns that the wts teaches one thing to new ones, but something else entirely to those who are already baptized.
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Godrules has a right to speak his mind.
The net is no more dangerous than the printed word was when it first became popular, or radio, or movies, or originally free speech. I think any form of communication will get people thinking. Except WWF. Dare we put the controll of information in the hands of one group of persons?
Godrules, who did you dedicate your life to? Jehovah or his organization?
I was baptized before the 1985 change. I'm still looking to find the scriptural support for this. New converts are now Baptized in the Father, the Son and the spirit-directed organization. That started me looking elsewhere.
The first question is: On the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to Jehovah to do his will? The second is: Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with God’s spirit-directed organization? (Watchtower 6/1/85, pg. 30)
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higher education
by tigerlily infirst post.. i am in college studying engineering.
does anyone else here in college feel like they have to work twice as hard as everyone else in the cong.
to avoid the assumption that higher ed.
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Hi Tigerlily.
Welcome to the family. We fight sometimes too.
I went to college before I was JW'd, so I can't help you from my personal experience.
I'm not fond of this country's educational system. It's run like a business and the richer you are, the easier it is to partake. Many of the Profs can be egotistical asses and you can't fight 'em. My advice is to study something that will get you a job. Just to pay back your loans. If you don't have any, have some fun, also. That may be your last chance until you get in the real world.
Probably, the Jw's that are giving you a hard time are jealous of you and fearful. You might learn something they are not able to. If it is not in the WTBTS's pubs then it doesn't exist.Come back soon, ya hear?